Kenne jetzt keine EnOcean-Unterputz-Steckdosen, aber falls Du genug Platz in Deiner UP-Dose hast, dann kannst Du einen normalen EnOcean-Aktor hinter Deine Steckdose klemmen. Damit passt die Optik auch weiter in Dein Schaltersystem.

@elwinl

Of course, you can programme however you want.

I just want to advise you first to think of what can be solved via direct connection and for what the Wibutler is used better.
So that you will not make yourself unhappy.

Concerning your direct question I cannot help you, I did not implement complex functions in Wibutler, for this I use a Beckhoff PLC (which allows me complete free programming). Wibutler I use only as Alexa-interface to my PLC.

I don't know if it is possible to do something similar in Wibutler, but in my PLC I would use an
IF
THEN
ELSE

IF Button_pressed THEN
IF Actor-State is On THEN
send off
ELSE
send on
END_IF
END_IF

But as I said, I don't know if you can differentiate between two cases inWibutler, perhaps someone else can help you with this.

You do not need to do some programming for the simple stuff like switching.

You have the Actors and Sensors and you do not need to do something else then teaching your sensors (in your case the PTMs) to your actors. The Eltako actors have a small wheel with it you can define, how you want to teach in your PTM (Completely, or single button, On, Off, dimming to a special value, whatever). Thats it, no programming, just configuring during the teach-in process.

With this configuration you can switch it directly.

And additionally for your light scenes or behaviour depending on other sensors, or for voice control with Alexa you can use the Wibutler.

You can use both ways at the same time.

As explained in the dimmer thread. You would avoid the situation with the direct connection.

If your button is connected directly you could switch it on and off by the one button directly. (It does not matter if Wibutler is working or not which is a positive side effect) and with the other button you switch all off via Wibutler.

If you press the first button again, the actor "knows" that it is off, so it goes on directly, so you willnot have your problem described.

@elwinl

Of course it is possible, but on one hand it is less reliable, on the other hand you do not win anything.

An actor like your dimmer can be controlled by several devices (PTMs, Wibutler, etc.) at the same time.

So, imho it is the best solution:

1. To teach in your PTMs directly to your actors.
2. To teach in your actor to the Wibutler
3. To teach in PTMs to the Wibutler everywhere you want to use it for a complex setting.

With the direct teached PTMs you can control your light "oldschool", it is always working, it does not matter if the Wibutler is damaged or if you are doing a fimware update or whatever.

With the teached in Actors to the Wibutler you can control your lights by phone via Wibutler or for every other setting, like smoke detetion or presence simulation.

And last with additional teached in PTMs to the Wibutler you can do your lighting settings like.
Pressing the button and dimmer one goes to 50%, dimmer, two goes to 80% and dimmer three goes off.
Or with one button press, everything goes off

In this configuration you can do whatever you want.

I do not understand, why you do not teach in the PTM directly to the dimmer.

The way you want to use the function it makes no sense, to have the communication this way:
PTM -> Wibutler -> FUD14 -> Wibutler (gets the Dimmer feedback)

Communication would work without trouble and higher reliability:
PTM -> FUD14 -> Wibutler (gets the Dimmer feedback)

A general rule:
Still use the direct connections.

It does not matter, if you use Wibutler or something else, but every system can get damaged, then you need your direct connections.

Just use the Wibutler as Add-On for automation or for scenes.
So, learn in your actors (like for lamps or shutters) and program your scenes, rules, use Alexa with them or whatever.

But if Wibutler is not working, you can still switch on your light or move up the shutters by the direct connections.

Ja, geht mir genauso. Hauptgrund für den Wibutler ist bei mir ebenfalls, Sprachbefehle ins EnOcean-Netzwerk zu bekommen, da ich ebenfalls keine Bastellösung wollte.

Bin mir nicht mehr sicher, ob das die richtige Lösung war.

Also ich habe zu Hause auch den Afriso Eco.

Ja im Ernstfall sendet er nur ein Telegramm, Du musst halt dafür sorgen, dass Du ihn so platzierst, dass das Telegramm auch empfangen wird.

Du kannst ihn ja beliebig manuell auslösen um so eine gute Position zu finden.

Und heute morgen wieder.

Wieder mit der Standardprozedur neu gestartet.

Meine Frage wäre auch noch offen:

@lessandro sagte in Alexa..... „Wohnzimmer Licht reagiert gerade nicht“:

@wibutlersupport

Gibt es eigentlich eine Möglichkeit, den Wibutler direkt über die App neu zu starten?

Bisher bin ich immer runter und habe für 10 Sekunden den Netzstecker gezogen.